Action Congress... in action
An email from a friend's father - he got caught up in the elections last week:
Hi Folks,
This is what Action Congress thugs did to my car on Thursday 12th
April, 2007. They were coming from a rally and riding on an Okada.
Obviously drug-crazed, they thought I am a PDP man and descended on my car. Thank God, it could have been worse if they were armed.
Unfortunately, this class of people bear the brunt of the mismanagement
of the ruling class when they get into power, nevertheless they are always available to kill and maim just to get the same people into power.
Wither Nigeria?
Her sister continues the story:
I just remembered something kinda funny that daddy said happened on the day
he went to report his car to the police... He said there was no light at the
station and that when he was taken to the Area Commanders office, he was
about to talk about the deplorable state of the station and the country in
general... only for the Area Com to start commending Fashola and the AC
party for 'doing the right thing'. Apparently they had distributed t-shirts,
face caps and bags of rice and they had made the police force and their
wives very pleased.
The stupid man even went on to say that PDP stood no chance cos they hadn't
even attempted to settle the police well 'at aaalll'.
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23 comments:
"Unfortunately, this class of people bear the brunt of the mismanagement
of the ruling class when they get into power, nevertheless they are always available to kill and maim just to get the same people into power."
How true, how sad!
Jeremy, further updates to the situation.
One of the men who smashed the car has been identified. My dad went to the police, only to be told that he would have to "maintain surveillance" on the man, and when he was ready hire a danfo so that they can go and pick him up.
WHAT A JOKE!
He had to explain to them that he is a doctor not a policeman, and his role is not surveillance but identification of the suspect.
This is a shame and political violence should not be tolerated in any way.
Anyone who lives in Lagos will know that PDP is the truly violent party in the state. They have been oppressing us because Obasanjo, Bode George and Ahmadu Ali were hell bent on getting Obanikoro in power to teach Tinubu a lesson for his role in fighting for Lagos council funds, census results & abortion of third term.
Furthermore, I dont buy the story of the events in the police station with regards to AC. I live in Lagos and most of us saw PDP distributing t-shirts to the masses.
Lest I be accused of being an AC supporter/politician, I actually voted for DPA(Jimi Agbaje) but I am an objective observer and my experiences and those of many I know in these elections point to the fact that PDP had a violent agenda.
thats the society that we live in and the world that we abide within... it's really sad, on sunday i was driving down from gbagada and two cars violently drove in front of me with dozens of men squeezed against each other in the cars, brandishing brooms (which is AC's logo...i think the price of brooms in the market would have shot up at this rate)i was so scared, all i could think about was them smashing my car wind screen... but apparently they were celebrating a victory that had not yet been officially announced. where are we going as a nation, this weekend, it was a though Lagos was in a state of emergency, the army took over... armed to the teeth, brandishing weapons and their ever green camouflage, it was scary, reminded me of when the military was in power and sent shivers down my spine. Anyways, lets watch and pray that this time, something good will come out of this...
As long as politics is seems as the quickest rags to riches story (palm wine to Dom Pérignon) , we wouldn’t see the last of such terrible behaviour.
Naijablog, has it occured to you that your friend's email might have been a deliberate attempt by political opponents to smear AC? YOu may haVe just helped disseminate some political propaganda. How do you know who smashed up the car? Where you there? All you have is your friend's word, the son of a politician. Their word is not worth a dime. You may just have been had.
Na wa o, which way naija.
Doromi Said:
Naijablog, has it occured to you that your friend's email might have been a deliberate attempt by political opponents to smear AC?
Jeremy has a phD for goodness sake. From the sort of commentary he writes on his blog do you not think he has the capacity to figure out if somebody is trying to smear another?
YOu may haVe just helped disseminate some political propaganda. How do you know who smashed up the car? Where you there?
Doromi are you some kind of idiot? Since when are people not allowed to talk about an event unless they were eyewitnesses?
We have a firsthand account of a crime.
We have pictures of the damage.
We have victim's positive identification of the perpetrators. This is not good enough for Doromi because he wsn't there.
DOROMI YOU MUST BE A NIGERIAN POLICE OFFICER! Clap for yourself!
All you have is your friend's word,
if you can't trust your friends who are you trusting?
the son of a politician. Their word is not worth a dime. You may just have been had.
First of all Doromi, I know this friend of Jeremy's and I can categorically state that she is a daughter and not a son. Only God knows where you got the idea that she was male. Clearly you did not read the message properly before jumping to stupid conclusions, or you would have seen" HER sister continues the story
" and not "His sister continues the story"
The only person whose word is not worth a dime here is YOU.
Also the father of the girl in question is a doctor. Where did you get the idea that he was a politician? I have to ask the question once again, ARE YOU AN IDIOT?
Sometimes one has to wonder at the sheer lack of analysis of some comments.
Look at the comments of Tayo for instance:
I dont buy the story of the events in the police station with regards to AC. I live in Lagos and most of us saw PDP distributing t-shirts to the masses
What has that got to do with the conversation in the police station?
Anybody with a brain knows that handing out t-shirts to the masses is quite different from giving bags of rice to the police. One can be called campaigning, the other is bribing officers of the state whose duty is to safeguard the integrity of the elections in question.
So because you saw PDP giving some people t-shirts you can categorically state that they also settled the police with bags of rice to the amount done by AC?
am an objective observer and my experiences and those of many I know in these elections point to the fact that PDP had a violent agenda.
Nobody is saying PDP did not have a violent agenda. The point is that AC is no better. SYou are not objective Tayo, stop being illogical, you are not
The violence is being perpetrated by many parties. Who cares whether the PDP thugs are more violent than the AC thugs?
Learn to look at the big picture and stop using your personal experiences as a bible the rest must follow.
This is quite funny. Kemi, was it your father's car that was destroyed? If it was, I am truly sorry for the damage. If it was not, then you seem to be crying more than those who were affected.
You claim that most comments lack in any form of analysis but I fail to see any analysis in your comments either. It just contains insults and whilst you may have a few good points, your tone/insults does not make you any better than those you are condemning for not analysing issues. You can analyse issues without asking if people are idiots or calling them illogical.
but it is rather annoying when people make idoitic statements like tayo and doromi have done. It means that they are not actually reading the content of the post.
Uche does it matter whether the car was Kemi's father or not? I don't think so. I think what is important is to note that violence is part of the electoral process in Nigeria and innocent bystanders get cut in the crossfire. I have been observing the election and both PDP and AC have displayed equal amount of violence.
Uche you are contradicting yourself. One minute you say i am not analysing issues, the next minute you say my tone is subtracting from my analysis.
The reason why I am so angry is because the problem with Nigeria is evident from the comments left on this blog. All this talk of blaming PDP or whoever is bullshit. There is a problem with the collective of Nigerians.
A car is damaged, the owner tells the story and shows the evidence.
People say - He must have been a politician.
A man assaults his wife
People say - She must have done something to annoy him.
A child is kidnapped from the streets and raped.
People say - Her parents should have told her not to play outside.
A man is attacked by Armed Robbers.
People say - He should not have been driving late at night.
A student is cheating in exams to get the place in university of an honest student.
People Say - God will punish him .
The student grows up to be an incompetent doctor whose patients die at his hands
People Say - It was God's time for them to die.
Thieves and Thugs are stealing our elections.
People Say - They are not as bad as Abacha
Continue to give your excuses. Ask the wrong questions. Surrender your brains to stupidity and Ignorance. Wait for God to come down from heaven and solve your problems. Look for the good side of everything instead of how to make the bad side good. And remember, the most important thing is not the point Kemi is making, but whether or no she uses the right tone!
Yes, Kemi! Because using the right tone is part of making your point.
and you, jeremy. you will not allow fred's abusive comment to you but you can allow kemi insult other people (even if their comment is illogical, couldn't you have responded instead of hiring kemi to do you dirty job?)
Not really. Fred was being plain abusive, calling me names. Although Kemi also likes to dish some dirt occasionally, she tends to also have a much more structured argument.
In many ways, I disagree with things that Kemi says as much as I do with what Fred says, but the fact is she relies on argument and logic to a much greater degree than dear old Shango..
Anon, if you have been following this blog for a while, you must know that Kemi doesn't reserve her comment just for the likes of Fred. Rather, Jeremy always seem to be at the recieving end of most of her missiles. I have to agree with Jeremy on this one. the difference between kemi and fred is that she provides a structured and coherent argument. Fred is just one long rant and abuse. What to do? subject readers to an incoherent and abusive argument a or coherent and abusive one? i think had prefer the latter.
but honestly Kemi you make good arguments, but why the incessant abuse on others? what is the matter with you?
Dunni
Dunni,
There is nothing the matter with me. The incessant abuse demonstrates the utter contempt I have for people who refuse to think. They are the ones i hold responsible for the state of Nigeria, from the leaders down to the lowliest.
Furthermore, for someone like me, say what you will, insults and abuse are effective weapons in my arsenal. They work!
I am not a mad person and I would not repeatedly behave in a certain way if it did not generate the response I was looking for.
The advantages are manyfold as long as you can back up tough talk with reasonable arguments :
1) People remember your comments and more importantly your point better.
2) Where there are many comments on a subject, people will specifically look for yours to see what you have to say on the subject, even if its just for entertainment value.
3) It exposes the recipients for what they are. IGNORAMUSES. Some of the thought processes of people are so flawed and childish that to argue with them rationally would be as fruitless as arguing with a baby and an insult to right thinking people everywhere.
4) Believe it or not, it raises the level of debate. People think twice before writing any rubbish that pops into their head because they know a torrent of abuse will follow. Some may argue that this frightens off those who have valid points to make, but I disagree. If you do not have the strength of your convictions to withstand an undeserved insult your probably are not worth listening to and lack of confidence belies an insecurity in the argument itself.
5)I do not care if people insult me back. It comes with the territory and I wouldn't dish it if I couldn't take it.
Some may argue that I lower the tone of the debate, but the truth is that I only insult people in about 1 out of 8 comments, its not enough to lower the tone.
6) Remember that only a handful of people comment on this blog, but hundreds of people read it daily. Every stupid comment here reflects badly on us Nigerians. It requires a forceful voice to undo the damage.
It's a dirty job and I've taken it upon myself to do it. People should thank me for dealing with the agents of confusion. It's practically public service!
Did I mention the utter, utter contempt I have for these people? Did I? They sicken me.
Public service, Kemi? Who made you blog's police? Face it, you have issues exarcebated by your crises.
No, Kemi. Don't try to explain to us why you choose to convey your ideas in insults. It doesn't take away the fact that you lack decorum in public space. Yes. It doesn't even matter if those you insult presented illogical arguments in the first place.
We do not doubt that you are a very logical and intelligent person (I was going to write 'lady' but changed my mind). In fact, yours is a classic example to prove the fact that intelligence does not always come me with good manners and tact. In addition, you have shown that intelligent people can also be bullies, considering the fact that they needn't be since their logic is enough to get them first place in discussions.
emi said:
No, Kemi. Don't try to explain to us why you choose to convey your ideas in insults.
Abeg go siddon somewhere.
Dunni asked a question. Anybody who asks a reasonable question will get an answer.
It doesn't take away the fact that you lack decorum in public space.
You are missing the point SPECTACULARLY. The point is I don't give a stuff about your so-called decorum.
Yes. It doesn't even matter if those you insult presented illogical arguments in the first place.
Of course it does!
Because the bottom line is that
I am speaking the truth. A person who cannot think or reason is an idiot. It is only an insult when used to someone who is clearly not an idiot.
To call an honest man a thief is an insult.
To call an armed robber a thief is NOT an insult. I don't know why something so simple is so difficult for you to understand.
We do not doubt that you are a very logical and intelligent person
It is not your belief or doubt that determines whether or not I am intelligent and I don't need you or anybody to validate my existence.
(I was going to write 'lady' but changed my mind).
That's okay. I don't consider being called a lady a compliment. It is a word created by men to honour the women who did not challenge their authority and who were part of an oppressive class structure. It was Lords and Ladies before it was Ladies and Gentlemen. The term is arguably archaic.
In fact, yours is a classic example to prove the fact that intelligence does not always come me with good manners and tact.
Intelligence does not need good manners and tact. WHAT ON EARTH IS WRONG WITH YOU????
And your point is a classic example of how Nigerians put good manners, respect and behavioural expectations above intelligence.
Most of the people who changed the world, for good were notoriously rude.
It was the bad people, Idi Amin, Hitler etc who were charming and respectful. People like you would have been defending them that they were good people because they had good manners. Robert Mugabe was also once known for his good manners!!
Meanwhile, the scientists and philosophers who gave us the advanced world we take for granted were famously anti-social to the point of misanthropy. People even think Einstein and Newton might have had Asperger Syndrome.
Had Einstein been a Nigerian no doubt he would have died a clerk in the patent office because some bufoon of a superior would have decided that he was rude and had no respect.
Only the biggest egos, those most full of hot air are afraid of a rude person.
When somebody is doing something wrong at home, people are afraid to correct Oga or Madam, because to do so would be rude. We have put these so-called manners so high on our agenda that now, any idiot who gives obeisance to a corrupt leader like Babangida, who prostrates in front of the looters and rapists of Nigeria who hails an armed robber splashing money as "Alaye Baba!!" will get ahead.
Respect is the most important thing to us. That is why you have the craziness of people wanting to be known as "Engineer Ajayi", "Lawyer Ugochukwu" but to call a married woman "Miss" is disrespectful.
Yours is the same value system used by inner-city gang members. THE RESPECT VALUE SYSTEM.
These are all symptoms of a much wider malaise.
In addition, you have shown that intelligent people can also be bullies, considering the fact that they needn't be since their logic is enough to get them first place in discussions.
Wrong. Wrong, wrong again.
To call someone who is an idiot an idiot is not to bully them. I do not direct this vitriol at people just because I disagree with them but at people who are obviously contemptible.
We need to question a value system that puts at the top those who are "respectful" and "well mannered" before considering anything else. Those who toe the line and look the other way where there is wrong doing.
Cowards who cannot call a thief a thief, who think it is not tactful to expose a liar and who think it is rude to call an idiot an idiot.
I spit on that value system.
Buhahahaha!
Indeed, Kemi, you have issues! O ti fe ya were. Emi raised valid points about YOU and you start justifying your ill-breeding and condemning a value system. Emi did not say respect is higher than logic. It's not about the value system.
It's about YOU carrying fire on your head and lashing out at people. Look in the mirror. YOU have problems and YOU are a coward. Why don't you come out of your closet and keep saying what you say? Some of us know YOU, we know your Mum and we know that you are just a farce.
Another demonstration of stupidity. When will you morons stop making the issue about me?
An anonymous person telling me to come out of the closet, and that he/she knows my mum.
Am i supposed to be scared or what? ABEG.
One day some people will get irony.
Anybody who calls me a coward clearly doesn't know me.
If you really knew me, you would have sent the above message to my email address with your own REAL email address instead of trying to scare me with pathetic comments like I KNOW YOUR MUM.
WHAT AN IDIOT.
The people who know me on this blog don't post to me anonymously.
ODE.
and what was up with that pseudo-evil laugh? What an odd person. Probably someone whos been at the receiving end of one of my tongue-lashings and is clearly too scared to post under their real name.
Obviously there's no more to be said on this thread as the mad people have started coming out and its getting boring.
Hi Kemi. Good thinking! Good Comment. But my dear sister to be honest with you, you've taken it too far. Ha! Are you Koro's girlfriend or has she promised to make you his PA sorry you lost. Anyway you can still get the post of Presidential Spokeperson as that's the post that fits people like you. too insultive ppl. Fani Kayode and the likewise. But remeber b4 he (fani) was made a minister he had to beg the senate for his utterances...he swallowed all his comments. I hope you won't do that.
I see that a lot of storm has been generated here since I left my comment.
I think my earlier comment has been misconstrued but I still stand by it. The very first line said the picture was a "shame" and " political violence should not be tolerated".
I only spoke of my experience with the PDP and like I said I was rooting for Jimi Agbaje all the way so I am not an AC supporter.
However, it is not in my nature to insult people that I have never met before. The beauty of life is that we can all express our views and if folks like Kemi choose to call me "illogical, without a brain" and an "idiot" for expressing my view then so be it. I understand that it is my opinion and contrary to what Kemi said, my opinion is not a "bible that others must follow". It is just my opinion and I stand by it.
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